I'm looking for recent dive/fishing reports of the Radford. If you've been there in the last year or two, I'd like to hear what you found. In particular, where is the stern now? I can find no reports since 2012.
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A postcard of the Mohawk, a typical 1930's passenger liner
A liner is a vessel designed primarily to carry passengers on a set schedule. There was a time when ocean liners were more than the mere pleasure cruisers of today. Before the advent of modern air travel, ships were the primary means of transport for those needing to cross the oceans. Untold numbers of immigrants came to this country in passenger liners, most in steerage class, a far cry from the modern floating pleasure palaces.
Most passenger liners had a secondary freight-carrying capacity. The Mohawk above has a typical configuration, with a mast and loading boom on the foredeck above a single cargo hatch. She also had side loading doors further aft that even allowed automobiles to drive on and off. The Mohawk had an unrefueled range of 7000 miles at 16 knots, and cost $2,000,000 to construct in 1926. ( $20,790,000 in 2003 dollars.)
Clyde-Mallory Lines Miami-Havana sailing schedule, Winter 1932-33, showing a Mohawk-class liner on the cover.
Individual pages shown in order
Public spaces and accommodations
Of course, now you can't go to Havana at all !
$22.50 doesn't even get you to Manhattan any more !
Passenger deck plans, showing cabin layout
The three passenger decks in the superstructure are A-upper (with lifeboats) B-middle, and C-lower. A-deck also appears to have some officer's quarters forward, as well as the Captain's cabin, at the extreme forward end, directly below the bridge. The rest of the crew was probably quartered below, in the hull, which also contained extensive cargo holds with 272,500 cubic feet for freight.
The passenger's entrances on either side of C-deck lead into the "Main Lobby", just aft of amidships. Triple staircases lead up from there to the "Social Hall" on B-deck and the "Sun Parlor" on A-deck. The large dining room is forward on C-deck. The lounge and music room, library and writing room, and glass-enclosed Promenade are forward on B-deck. Most of the other public areas are aft on A-deck, including the "Dancing Deck", "Veranda" and a large "Smoking Room" - a sign of the times. There is also a Barber shop on A-deck. The Ship's Office is off the Main Lobby on C-deck.
The only thing resembling a bar is the "Beverage Room" next to the smoking room - another sign of the times - one must remember that this was during Prohibition. However, there is a large unlabeled space on C-deck adjoining the Dining Room that probably turned into a bar just as soon as the ship cleared US waters ! There was no pool, casino, gymnasium, spa, theatre, playground, roller coaster, or any other of the attractions of a modern cruise ship.
|* not counting rooms with private facilities, or crew|
All rooms had ventilation and hot and cold running water, although there is no mention of air conditioning. 38 rooms had private toilets; 33 of those had private baths. The rest of the passengers had to vie for the rather limited public restrooms and a single public bath on each deck, but this was probably not a great hardship on a day-tripping coastal liner like this. I count total accommodations for 286 persons, double occupancy, with the best suites amidships on C-deck. The aft-most area on C-deck is marked "Steerage, " which probably extends down into the hull for passengers who could not afford a stateroom. The total passenger capacity is given as 446; 585 including crew.
Stateroom cost was each-way, on top of the $22.50 round-trip fare, and staterooms ranged in price from $2 for the barest inside cabin to $10 for the best suites with sitting room and full bath. The minimum cost to get your own toilet was $5; bath $6. Adjusted for inflation, that's $302.20 for a round-trip fare, plus $26.86 - $134.31 for room each way, plus $40.29 Cuban tourist tax. (2003 dollars) Add $402.93 for your car, for a grand total of $1356.53 (plus meals) round-trip for two well-heeled travelers. The distance from Miami to Havana is 228 statute miles, or approximately 13 hours at 16 knots. Doesn't seem like such a bargain now, does it?
The first vessels to make ocean crossings on a set schedule were the American Black Ball packet ships in the 1820s.
An early trans-Atlantic liner - the Oregon (1882) is clearly recognizable as an ocean liner.
Faded glory - the SS United States rusts at dockside in Philadelphia.
The United States was once the greatest liner of all - not the biggest, but definitely the fastest. Launched in 1952, 990 feet long, 53,290 tons with a demonstrated speed of 43 knots ( and a true maximum speed probably much greater ) the United States ruled the trans-Atlantic crossing until jet airliners and rising costs finally retired her. Lately she has been acquired by Norwegian Cruise Lines, and is currently being restored. She may yet sail again.
My mother actually made a crossing on the United States. She said the ship was all stainless steel, glass, aluminum and plastic inside, very clean and modern and 'American', unlike the rich wood and gilt interiors of older European liners. But what would you expect - the United States was built at government expense as a thinly-disguised troopship, with a surplus battleship powerplant ! Her true top speed was deliberately never tested, in order to keep it secret.
Some Liner Specifications:
|Oregon||1881 UK||518 x 54 ft||7,500||18 kts||sunk 1886|
|Carolina||1896 USA||380 x 47 ft||5, 017||15 kts||sunk 1918|
|Titanic||1911 UK||883 x 92 ft||46,328 tons||21 kts||sunk 1912|
|Mohawk||1926 USA||387 x 54 ft||5,897 tons||16 kts||sunk 1935|
|Queen Mary||1934 UK||1,019 x 118 ft||81,237 tons||28.5 kts||museum|
|Queen Elizabeth||1938 UK||987 x 118 ft||83,673 tons||29 kts||burned 1972|
|Andrea Doria||1951 Italy||700 x 90 ft||29, 083||23 kts||sunk 1956|
|United States||1952 USA||990 x 101 ft||53,290 tons||43+ kts||see above|
|Norway||1960 France||1,035 x 110 ft||66,348 tons||35 kts||in service|
|Queen Elizabeth II||1967 UK||963 x 105 ft||70,327 tons||32.5 kts||in service|
|Voyager of the Seas||1999 Finland||1020 x 158 ft||142,000 tons||22 kts||in service|
|Carnival Legend||2002 Finland||963 x 106 ft||88,500 tons||22 kts||in service|
|Queen Mary II||2003 France||1132 x 135 ft||150,000 tons||30 kts||in service|
* speeds and tonnages are not directly comparable
A modern liner, the Carnival Legend, makes its way down the Hudson in front of lower Manhattan. Nowadays, most passenger liners don't actually go anyplace, they just circle around on holiday cruises.
Queen Mary II
- Timetable courtesy of Bjorn Larsson / www.timetableimages.com
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